Gutterglove vs. Leaffilter

The comparison is rather striking between these two products.  The mesh support for the Gutterglove product is a solid extruded and anodized aluminum structure.  We have seen photos of a car driving over a piece of Gutterglove positioned on edge and it did not buckle.  We tried it ourselves with the same results.  We are not certain what the support material is for the LeafFliter mesh.  It is recycled plastic, vinyl or PVC.  We have spoken with LeafFilter customers and found discoloration (apparently from UV rays), buckling and warping of the product.  Several LeafFilter systems had the stainless steel mesh completely detached.

The difference between the stainless steel mesh for the two systems is that of the alloy.  304 SS vs. 316L SS.  The 316L SS mesh, which is specified by Gutterglove, is appreciably more expensive due to its increased chromium and nickel content and the addition of 2-3% molybdenum.  The reasons for choosing 316L SS are that of increased corrosion resistance, especially in marine environments.  The reason for choosing the low carbon grade of 316 SS is that it maintains its malleability even after the weaving process.  304 SS, the choice of LeafFilter, is more susceptible to pitting and corrosion in marine environments.  This can hit home even for those living inland from coastal regions.  If icy conditions exist in the winter, streets are heavily sprayed with salt.  This can become airborne and is tracked into neighborhoods.  Chlorides are present everywhere.

LeafFilter is placed on the gutter in a position horizontal to the ground creating a tray effect.  This holds debris and allows it to pile up.  Gutterglove is normally placed on a home with a 10 to 15 degree pitch which allows debris to slide off of the micromesh in a downpour or by the wind.  We found it refreshing that Gutterglove says there is no totally maintenance free system.  They supply each of their customers a telescoping brush with the bristles reversed to knock off any debris that might accumulate on inside corners.  We have not found any gutter protection system that has eliminated inside corners buildup.

There are some reverse-curve systems that are nailed or screwed into the roof decking underneath the shingles.  This would affect the roof warranty.  Neither Gutterglove nor LeafFilter affect roof warranty status.  It was mentioned, by some LeafFilter and Gutterglove customers that LeafFilter claims that by placing Gutterglove under the first row of shingles on the drip edge, the roof warranty would become invalid.  This is blatantly untrue.  We have checked with builders, roofers and insurance companies and they all state that the installation of Gutterglove is perfectly acceptable.  Rumors and untruths in our industry give it a bad name.  We are trying to set the record straight.

We have no indication that clogging in either the Gutterglove or the LeafFilter systems is a concern.  Debris buildup on the LeafFilter system due to its instillation orientation is a negative.  Neither system prevents buildup from occurring on an inside corner at the base of a roof valley.  Again, we have not found any system that prevents buildup on an inside corner.

Gutterglove on Roof

Gutterglove on Roof

LeafFilter’s Product clogging

LeafFilter’s Product clogging

Buckling and warping of the Leaffilet product

Buckling and warping of the Leaffilet product

LeafFilter’s problems

Lastly, we address the question concerning dissimilar metals.  Gutterglove anodizes the extruded aluminum support.  The main reason for this is that they do a considerable number of K-style and half-round copper gutters.  They even use brass screws when working with copper gutter systems.  This is to eliminate the galvanic reaction between copper and aluminum.  It has been verified, by a consulting metallurgist, that any galvanic reaction between 316L SS and aluminum wouldn’t be a concern for well over 50 years.

 

Our Ratings of Gutterglove & LeafFilter

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Gutterglove In-depth Review LeafFilter In-depth Review

 

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Discussion

  1. chris  March 13, 2013

    product is only as good as the company that backs it up . After reviewing consumer reports and doing my homework i was much more impressed by leaffilters product, company and price .. anyone can sell gutterglove and that scares me to death . here today gone tomorrow.

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    • NCR  March 18, 2013

      CR tested the products for a limited time, we tested for 24 months the results were: your product ( leaf filter) warped and clogged.

      I would think that a company that has a product that actually works past 24months would be the one that would be here tomorrow.

      Chris if you would like to see some of this for yourself we would urge you to download our research of micro-meshes and perhaps this can help you build a better product.

      http://gutterprotectionreview.org/about-us-2/shop/

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    • Lora  May 13, 2013

      I had Leaf Filter gutter system installled in the fall of 2010 at a cost of $4250.00. By the spring of 2012, water was running from my roof ACROSS the top of the mesh screen and straight down like Niagra Falls to the landscaping around my house. Even after washing the surface of the mesh, the water still flows right over the top. I contacted the contractor but they went were out of business. I contacted Leaf Filter LLC in Michigan and got no response. I filed a complaint with the BBB of Western Michigan and Leaf Filter,, LLC basically told the BBB that it wasn’t their responsibility and to not contact them again. I am now in the process of working with my state’s Attorney General’s Office.

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  2. Greg  May 18, 2013

    Here is Gutter glove and the type of dealers they have
    http://www.kshb.com/dpp/money/consumer/call_for_action/dreams-of-problem-free-gutters-go-down-the-drain

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    • NCR  July 20, 2013

      Greg,

      ” We have been following this closely and have decided to allow the story to unfold and resolve itself in whatever way – without our direct interference or input. We are only now starting to publish coverage and analysis of this event as while the event was unfolding, we found it very difficult to discern the skepticism, blatant lies and manipulation from the truth in its entirety ”

      See:

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  3. Greg  June 9, 2013

    Here’s what a Gutter Glove Customer thinks not good!
    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgI1e1xdrdk&feature=youtu.be

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  4. Matt  June 26, 2013

    Have you had any experience with a product called Gutterstuff?

    http://gutterstuff.com/guttering/

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    • NCR  July 21, 2013

      This seems to be a common story with the gutter foams and brush type guards
      10

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  5. NCR  July 15, 2013

    Greg,

    if you can do better then go for it!

    one of the reasons we did not attach the guards to the gutter as we used sections of a gutter cover not an entire length so therefore it would be difficult to provide the same level of mounting for each guard therefore as this was done to all guards we tested – no guard had an advantage / disadvantage against each-other. Moreover by not screwing in guards it really has no correlation to results in the tests that we preformed – we can go into the physics and explain further why, however you seem to have some sort of a point to make so why don’t you tell us as to why this matters ever so much or how this effects the results in any way?

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    • Greg  July 21, 2013

      Screwing down a gutter guard does not represent
      The type of teasing you were doing?
      Really???
      You were doing a collapse test with a bar bell to show
      How a product caves in.
      You shirt every question I ask you
      Why won’t you publish all of these gutter guard micro screen warranties
      That show their disclaimers about
      Pollen, bird droppings, sap etc that must be cleaned off
      In order for their micro screens to work
      I am waiting?
      I will post them for you ok?
      Then people who come to your website can see the truth and lies being told
      Buyer Beware, all gutter guards clog with time
      and these warri ties do not cover the gutter guard from getting clogged
      Deception!!!!

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      • NCR  July 21, 2013

        Greg, we would love to have them: please email them over to info@ncreview.org

        Thanks

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        • Greg  July 21, 2013

          Will do, you mean you have never seen them or researched the warranties?
          I do that first thing

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          • NCR  July 21, 2013

            We have, researched them and published the findings on each page – however we do not see a warranty as the only factor in how good a system works as to why would you worry about a warranty if the thing works?

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          • Greg  July 21, 2013

            Why would they have disclaimers in their warranties then?
            It’s because they know that the gutter Guard will clog !
            They know that mildew , sap , bird droppings etc will clog any type of
            Micro screen
            GutterDome and MasterShield do not publish any warranty that I can find
            They just say lifetime
            Lifetime on what?
            Why in the world would you think that any
            Gutter guard is 100% maintenance free or 100% self cleaning
            The true experts are people like me who have been involved with gutters and gutter guards for 35 years
            Probably even before you were twinkle in your Momma’s eye!
            Everything needs cleaning in life
            For some reason you think that gutter guards do not need cleaning
            What do you base this on?
            You are niev beyond belief

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          • NCR  July 21, 2013

            Well Greg,

            We actually did a research paper just about this topic and rather than relying on your 35 years of climbing ladders and she said he said business – we used laboratory instrumentation and scientific analysis to determine just that – Why do you not read our research so you can actually make somewhat of an educated argument.

            In case you missed it, the link is:NCR Industry Research Reports

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          • Greg  July 21, 2013

            You really want people to pay for this?
            I finally realize why you have this website!
            It’s all about the money !

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          • NCR  July 21, 2013

            Greg,

            Yes we paid to have this report made, leasing a laboratory, equipment and analysts so we can provide you with the same quality of reviews you have come to expect and stand behind what we write.

            We decided to create a specific and in-depth report with the same findings that we found and use on this site – for other manufacturers, installers…. so that way they can learn about the scientific properties that make up micro mesh and in-turn find a way to build a better product.

            As the costs of running this site, counsel, lease of this equipment and in depth analysis has a substantial cost and we do not have advertising (therefore do not generate income) we have made the reports available for small fee for everyone.

            Our organization and function is not driven as to, as you say it ” all about the money” as most of the staff here are volunteers with a day job (mostly at NCR) and none of them are involved with the gutter industry – so what we are all about is providing an honest opinion to readers and busting flawed products.

            If you cannot afford to purchase our research – we can work out some sort of payment terms – as at the end of the day we would like for you to make more educated comments and perhaps have a better idea of what you talk about when it concerns micro mesh gutter covers.

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          • SteveJ  July 21, 2013

            Hey Greg i do not think that these guys accept food stamps

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          • Greg  July 21, 2013

            Does Steve J stand Steve Jackmeoff

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          • Greg  July 21, 2013

            How did you get the report Steve J
            With a Steve handJOB!

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          • SteveJ  July 21, 2013

            Actually did buy the report (and so did five of our dealers) and it was worth every penny as we do not sell gutter covers to trailer parks. good thing is broke rednecks like yourself cannot afford it.

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  6. Greg  July 21, 2013

    So you sell a crappy micro clog product too huh
    Why don’t you quit lying to your dealers and tell them the truth
    That your micro clog does not work and needs maintaining from a ladder

    Signed the redneck

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